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[Applause] we have music royalty in the room we have a
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Trailblazer in the room we have a Pioneer in the room we have the queen of
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a genre in the room we have a survivor in the room we have a mother in
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the room we have a daughter in the room thank you we have a legend a icon in the
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room please welcome Lisa Lisa to the room say this S stand in
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Ovation stand ination stand in Ovation clap standing
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on clap it up man clap it up thank you so much y' oh wow absolutely Lisa Lisa
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is here I got goosebumps when I was playing this song yes I wonder if I take
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you home would you come on man that was 1985 85 I know this song
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[Laughter] wow cuz I told Lisa on the phone it was
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the lyrics of that song that to me was revolutionary I wonder if you take me home yeah yeah you know and
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uh I want to say to you um thank you for your contributions to music culture to
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the genre freestyle R&B pop thank you cuz your songs couldn't be boxed in one
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category wow they became so popular and Main streem you can't really put it in one box um you're you're a Vanguard
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you're you're you're a Trailblazer wow there wasn't folks singing how you were
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singing to us at that time in the mannerism in which you were singing you
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were something new we hadn't really seen at that time would you agree Heather be 1 million per. I I appreciate you all so
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much I mean I was a kid you were a child and that's what made it so appealing cuz we was looking at this girl who probably
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went to our high school yeah yeah making music videos and back then that wasn't
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common people didn't have record deals like that at all I knew nothing about a record deal you didn't even know what
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that was I didn't know what a video was nothing I knew nothing all I knew is that I wanted to be on a stage singing
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that's all I knew and that's what I still love today that's what you still love to do today salute to you thank you
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and she has this um biopic call Can You Feel The Beat and in it learned so much
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about you even prior to connecting with uh the cat Jam yes you were a young lady
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who just sang right yes I I was raised in the church choir with my mom um
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Spanish choir we will call Maria which is Mary's daughters okay and um I I
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loved it the second that I saw my mom crying she was tearing sitting in the first Pew um I was seeing la Maria I was
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6 years old at 6 years old la Maria yeah yes and I I knew I had to do it I knew
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so you know I continueed to be this little Hell's Kitchen girl doing you know everything possible to help the
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family out because 10 kids the youngest of 10 damn y had 10 yeah 10 man there was no TV back in a day I asked my mom
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that all the time Restless all I'm sorry Mommy and um we used to do everything
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possible to make money to help each other because there was 10 of us seven girls three boys and a single mom so
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were some of the things you used to do did you used to sing in the streets for money I you sang in the streets for
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money I did 50th and Broadway we used to throw our baseball caps on the floor
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right us that's right down the street Hell's Kitchen you are in Hell's Kitchen Mama wow this is Hell's Kitchen yes born
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and raised and were you scared to you know because but when we got older my
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partner came teking out perod 39 in San Francisco they throw the Hat down you start popping and locking and it it was
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kind of like that yes absolutely we just sang it was me and two other little girls uh from Julia Richmond yeah
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richond Tony know she went to Richmond but um even before that I mean we just
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tried to figure out what I used to bag groceries at the at the M wow um I
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babysat I washed clothes for people I would go to the laundry room the laundry mat and wash clothing and we used to get
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like 15 cents 25 cents to to make money to take care care of us you know we did
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what we could contacts 15 cent and 25 cent was a little different back then back then no it was a lot of money added
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up you got a bag of chips a lot listen with 25 cents I used to be able to buy
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those big bags of popcorn and two packs of Starbucks and that was your meal for
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the day 35 cents you was boiling I used to buy a slice of pizza and a soda wow
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35 Cent 35 cents where New York Hell's
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Kitchen Hell's Kitchen yeah and that's where you grew up born and raised yes you know growing up in Cali always for
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some reason thought you were from the Bronx really everybody thought that everybody thought I was from the Bronx I have family there but nah Midtown 49th
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Street between 10th and 11th you're going to find out so much in this um this biopic U Can You Feel The Beat and
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knowing that you're an executive producer on this film yes sir I know you learned something I did I did give it
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around round of applause for that you learned something huh you learned that's how that's how I was able to maintain my
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life I mean I met Miss Tony Minaj I got a clap for her Tony Minaj Tony boy Tony
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Tony been around for since day one since day one yeah and her story is interesting it's in the movie she had to
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be part of this movie because she was a big guide for me she became my sister
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true sister my riter die she was the little bird in my ear saying hey hey hey
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watch out look at this don't let this happen keep your eyes open mhu so um you
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know she she was like she's the one who convinced me to do this okay to do the movie for five years she been asking to
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do the M well Tracy twinky bird which is one of the producers sisters clar
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sisters yes she did the CL she did the uh Big Pun movie right she's cas
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so she had been coming into my DMs for like 5 years she told me you know my
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father he was your teacher in Richmond I was like yes I know your father but I wasn't ready and I think after those
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five years that she kept coming in Tony took over and she was like yeah we're going to do this she convinced me and
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then and here we have it right now and we started talking about it yeah yeah and it's Premier in February the 1st on
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one of my favorite channels of course lifetime liftime
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so you know we'll be watching it in this movie you're not only executive producer but you play I play my mom you play your
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mom crazy right I want to ask you about that because we're finding out we haven't even got to the music we're just
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we're focused on you right now oh thank you then because of what I found out and the movie without I I have to speak on
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the first scenee right because the movie from the beginning is going to is
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compelling it's going to draw you in and you're going to learn something about Lisa that you did not know and the movie
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starts off with a an abusive scene of your of your father yeah domestic
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violence domestic violence yeah and your father's knocked you hit you across your face yeah and as your mother tried to
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protect you he also abused her as well right he always abused my mother I did that it's it's funny because in real
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life that's actually how I met my father what do you mean yeah I was
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coming home from school and you know you live in H's kitchen so we used to keep a bat at the side of the door you know you
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never know what's going to happen so I was putting the keys in the door but I
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kept hearing whimpering like what the hell is that so I open the door and I walk in and I see that this man has my
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mother pinned to the kitchen window and he's you know abusing her wow be frank
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he was beating her down and I'm like what the so I grabbed the bat and I ran over there I
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actually connected I broke the back you broke the back I did and my mother started screaming
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she's like Lisa oh my God and I said no I picked up the phone because we had security downstairs and I picked up the
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phone and I said please get the police and my mother's like no she grabbed the phone she goes that's your father and I
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said really great great introduction mhm wow that's how you first met your father
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how old were you 13 13 and and then how did the
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relationship progress from there with your father oh there was never a relationship with my father my father
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was never involved in my upbringing with all 10 of us he's actually my mom was
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married prior to him and she had five children with her first husband he
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passed away and then she met my father mhm you know my mom when she came to the
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states she was only 16 17 years old married with two kids mhm say your
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mother's name if you don't mind moner Lopez I love you mommy there you go come on let's celebrate her we got to put
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that out there this movie um that part of your life I did not know
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I was just dancing to your music I was just shaking my ass to your music but having to play the character
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of your mother I'm curious to how did that affect you psychologically because
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now you're playing your mom who's talking to you yeah that was crazy I remember everything that I've gone
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through with my mom uhhuh she know that um it was let me it was therapeutic okay
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right where to do that um I had three major breakdowns filming this movie but
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I we sat Tony and I sat every day on that set that this movie was being filmed I had to make sure we had to make
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sure that everything was being done correctly but there was a few scenes that I I just that one scene the first
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scene Tony had to pull me out of that scene and I had to breathe
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it was difficult it was really difficult but you know what it helped me it helped me a lot you know realization and and I
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was thankful thankful that my mom really she struggled but she killed it taking
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care of those 10 kids by herself give her a round of applause um thank you thank you how
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did these things affect your relationship you with your Dynamic with men in general at that time
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we oh that's how it is um I was uh married at a very young age
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my first marriage 18 17 what no I was uh uh turning 20 20 okay yeah and um I
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think I I did it simply because I wanted to have my own responsibility I wanted
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to have my own life though I was already having it with my music career I still
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as a family I wanted to I wanted to show my mom I'm I'm all that I can do it I can do it I
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don't really think there was any love there you know because as time went by I realized I'm like what am I doing with
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this person that I don't know you know and he was a Latino that
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was very mucho you know can you explain that to us non-spanish speaking people uh a very
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strong man okay um everything was about him
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for him you know and whatever I did in this business had to go through him so I
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had to let that go you had to let that go yeah I felt controlled stifled I
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couldn't do anything I mean there was a movie that I was offered and I said no because he said
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no is that the part where I'm thinking of the record you had an endorsement deal and I think the record company
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owner said you can't do it cuz you that was actually a uh a commercial
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a commercial and not the record label but my then management said no said she
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couldn't do the commercial because they came first and you belong to them yes w
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wow yes wow and that's the truth
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yeah Lisa a with this we celebrating but you put it in the movie it's all right
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it's all all right it's all right um I find this to be um
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you you've revealed a lot in this movie I did I still didn't reveal a lot and
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there's stuff that you haven't revealed right yes and there's a memoir that I am in the process of writing so that would
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be out and y'all will know everything okay cuz I I know yeah we want to know it all I don't know if folks realize I
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called you a Survivor right yes sir because you are a cancer survivor I am
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give her a round of applause for that thank you at what age were you diagnosed I was 20 years old 20 years old my God
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in the middle of your career on top of the world yes yes and and in the marriage as well yeah and that's one of
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the reasons why I had to get out of that marriage because I was um not giving
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given respect and and and no no kind of help I mean I don't know any other way
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to say it but I was given no help and um no one knew no one knew not even him um
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my management and producers they used to ask me why
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are you so tired and are you pregnant because I used to sleep a lot and then with the medication I used to have that
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pack on my hip um I was getting swollen a little bit my face started getting
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really big because of the steroid in the chemo that I had to carry and take and
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it was just like I can't tell anybody because they had they give me no kind of respect mhm like I'm tired can I sleep
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nope I would get yelled at get up let's go we got to go shake it let's do this
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6:00 in the morning get off the bus get to a pay phone call the radio stations it used to be like 12 radio stations
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back to back then we get to the hotel it would be like 7 in the morning and we'd have to go and try to get some sleep
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nope I was in another room with them trying to record vocals because that's how we were doing the first
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album so you were under all of this duress yes while you were making these
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these beautiful songs yes sir yes sir can you recall being in the studio recording a song knowing that you got
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all of these things on your mind no you can't remember because I I
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focused basically on what I wanted to do and this meant that I can do that you
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know get in the studio you sleep later when you get home off the tour you'll sleep just get there and do a damn good
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job and make sure that it gets done and then get back on the stage and perform disassociate this is Lisa Lisa ladies
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and gentlemen here come on man I'm shaking oh this is amazing though you doing an excellent job and I'm glad you
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shared that because when I when I found out about that I thought about Chadwick Bowman um from Black Panther prise be
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God bless him I wonder what you thought when he when it was discovered that he was diagnosed with cancer and he kept
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working yes yeah I kind of when I saw him and I was like wow he's too thin mhm
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this is before he said he was going through whatever and I'm like is he really going through
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something because why is he so skinny but anyway when they came out and they said that this is what he was going
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through I I shook I got like this ice cold feeling through my body and I was like oh my God the memory the memory
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just hit me I was like this is sick the things people will do just to get it
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done mhm you know but that's the love of what you do that's the strength that you have and I learned that from my mother
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you learned that from your mother yes keep moving Lisa Lisa man I keep saying your name
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man jeez my gosh um in those days women
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were under a lot of scrutiny yeah how you look how you sound you know who you
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hang with yeah um who you date uh right yeah um if you if you get pregnant you
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can't have a baby because the music business ain't came first right that's
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what they did they made me sign papers and I didn't know till years later that
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all of that was in those papers wow what that if you everything no driving fast
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cars no pregnancies no relationships no they controlled everything who are
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they am I allow i y your old management I want to
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put you in yeah okay your old management yes well okay can I ask in a different kind of way for artists especially women
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now who are going to millions of people that's going to see this and people are listening now who are artist yes how
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does an artist avoid this because a lot of times Lisa if you you want a record
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deal a lot of times you signed a production deal first and that's what I did so the details were in the
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production deal yeah it was a production deal that I signed and then they that whole deal was signed to a very small
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label personal r records and then that company went and got us to deal with Colombia got it
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that's and then it was at way years later that we resigned everything and I still didn't know what the hell I was
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signing because I was a kid so you would advise artists it's the production deal is what they need to look production any
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deal anything that's on paper make sure that any deal that you're given is in
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black and white and please have representation please have somebody that
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got your back I have a lawyer read everything before you sign it please I didn't do that I didn't have that no
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then the people who were representing me were representing them so that's a double dip right there MH damn Lisa
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thank you so much for your transparency thank you thank you so much for having a Generous Heart for your creativity can
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you share who was like the first angel that you met within this industry that
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you feel like you could let your guard down you could actually trust who started putting you on a
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different path away from these folks who were in my opinion abusive she's sitting
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right there Tony Tony Minaj Minaj Tony Minaj she get in the camera Tony let him
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see on cuz your character is Bree Breezy um plays Tony right yes we love Bree
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Breeze is incredible my I am har yo she played you to a te too
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man thank you come on Tony this is this is her this is the Angel right here Tony who walk with
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Lisa throughout her career they tried to get you they tried to get rid of Tony they said more than once more than once
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y she's bad news uh her sexuality they said all of that right go ahead I mean
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you know this is the 80s so you you know the music industry especially for women
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yeah you needed to be you know you need to look a certain way women wanted to be like you men wanted to get with you MH
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and so I did you know I think I was cute I had
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look still you still cute Tony but I think very quickly they realized that I
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wasn't I wasn't with it so so what were you thinking when these this management
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was taking advantage of Lisa in the way it was you know I had a record deal
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first uhhuh uh I was 14 and I was on prism and I I had a I I had a reged out
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called video burn uhhuh and it became like a little like a big DJ hit it's a CO classic she has a
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following she has a strong follow yes so I I um I literally got paid $200 to
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record that record they gave me a check for $200 they had me endorse the check right there I was 14 there was no adults
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involved so it's all shady um and I'm the kind of person that you you only going to get me one time
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yeah so they got me me one time yep and then I audition for Lisa at
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17 as kind of like a well you hear you might as well yeah and uh the rest is
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history but I was already peeping like just things Lisa as you can see she's a
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sweet Spirit she's a good human and uh you know it's a boys club and not that
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you know I'm knocking anybody but the business was handled a certain way back then and she was sure was this little
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woman in this group of men and then I came along and I was the second female in the group of men so it was just the
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two of us and we share a room and so we you know when the day would go go along
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and I see things were wrong I'd be like Lisa and she would be like don't say
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nothing I don't want to rock the boat and I'd be like but she's making me nervous all okay you know she she didn't
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want she didn't want anything to get messed up so she we we talked about it amongst ourselves but I was I was
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hipping her like this don't look right this don't sound right H so
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um when I watch the movie I don't see much um um mention of Full Force right
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and their participation in your career right why is that we decided that we
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were going to focus on Lisa Lis and culture and who we were and how it was an upbring you know it came up in this
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business nobody really back then nobody knew who culture wasused we thought Co
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jam and for force was the one B same thing yeah I think that's I think that's uh was the big conversation between Lisa
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myself and Twinkie it wasn't a diss to them it was just you know what a lot of
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people are confused about who Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam is so let's represent uh
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Cult Jam and Lisa in this movie and then of course during the writing of the
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movie uh between the writer Rebecca Twinkie and Lisa and myself it was like
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wow this story between the two of you that was important is really is really important so let's tell that too so it
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wasn't a slight to them leaving them out of the movie it's just we wanted to solidify who Lisa Lisa it was my choice
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I wanted her and if anybody says anything I don't care I needed that
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because she D she literally like dragged me out of the darkness I love this story man big round
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of applause so this well let me ask you this when I look at songs like uh uh head to toe you know um I wonder if I
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take you home all of these different songs um all I'm sorry no no that was
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good s goody that was good s you were ony it was on key I was on key uh what what
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head to toe All Cried Out all of these songs did you write on any of these songs not
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those none of those songs that's full force that's full force all those great hits yeah okay cool all right so you
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weren't so nobody took advantage of you in your publishing no okay all right but
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you were a writer though yes yes there was they gave me finally the one
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opportunity to get my name into what my work uh-huh uh someone to love me for me
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that's me that's you yes okay that's beautiful thank you man Lisa Lisa is here I got to ask you this too man it's
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been this this ongoing conversation about hipop because at the time you came
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out come on man Run DMC everybody this [ __ ] was come on era Houdini you know I
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was on tour with all of them you was on tour with him what was that like at that time was so much fun and crazy the [ __ ]
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I saw sorry that's okay you on serious X I'm surprised you ain't cursed yet the
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[ __ ] you doing Lisa all right all right oh okay so then I could really be me um
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the [ __ ] I on the road with all of them it was crazy thank God we did everything before the internet yeah yeah yeah I
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feel bad for these kids today they got they got the camera in their face I mean we were give me an example something you
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saw you ain't got to say names you a got to say name no names no names you know y'all still scary it's the no it's the
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music business I mean you know what it there's so many layers to this business um I love it I wouldn't choose anything
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else but there's there's a lot there's a lot there's a lot that goes on how did you avoid harassment like sexual harassment
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in that time because that was prevalent that was really hard and I come from a family of 10 I'm the youngest of 10
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seven girls and three boys but those three boys those men were crazy I was
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raised in Hell's Kitchen with the Westies and my brothers were very close
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to the Westies so everybody knew don't mess with Lisa you know and they taught
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me a lot you know and then of course on the road I had here and nobody was allow
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near me they used we used to do a concert and then right after the concert don't laugh cuz you know I'm right they
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would take me straight to the room and have a key to lock me in damn then it
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was regular keys not the cards and they used to lock me in and they would all go
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and party me no I wasn't allowed to party now I'm older than her uh but I wasn't
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allowed to party I wasn't allowed to do anything so Tony was out there in the mix and I'm
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like you know did you guys have fun yesterday last night you know can can can I hang out
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no so that's how I got that's how you got that's how you was able to avoid those things that time period when you
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think of movies like Beat Street and Crush Grove and wild style and Star Wars
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all those movies come on man stop playing with me Lisa come
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on what what did y'all see there's been this ongoing discourse about who was there in the beginning in hip-hop
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uh Puerto Ricans blacks so on and so forth what did y'all see oh for me it was Puerto Ricans and blacks we are
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growing up that come come we came up hand in hand I grew up in East Harlem so
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Puerto Ricans and black people we were the same there but we are black yes I know say that we are black Puerto Ricans
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are we are black we are stand stand somebody got to say it man true we
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say it they don't listen No it's it's true do the history do the knowledge but but I think what what's
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happened over the years is that because Puerto Rico is part of the United States
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they've assimilated right and they want they want to be more Associated you know
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it it everybody wants to be black when the juice and the and the sauce is there
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the juice and the sauce ain't there they they they don't want all the heat that we get right so it it's the same thing
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with them I just think that like as time went by they're like okay well we're not technically black well you're not
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Spaniard either this is not Spain at all you you've been colonized with the rest
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of us that is why New York is considered the Melting Pot We Are The Melting Pot
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because everybody from all works of the of the world came and we jumped in that
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pot we jumped in this pot we all live here okay Puerto Rico is the same thing a lot of people migrated from Africa
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from Spain I could keep going and they liveed they were raised there okay so we
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are mix we are tyo Indian MH we are the black tyo Indian hello MH we are black m
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i don't care nobody okay that's it we're going to move on from that conversation I think you said enough right there Beau
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Lisa Lisa damn give her a big round of applause um I bring up freestyle music a
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lot you know um my good friend that I started a business with um with my
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partner King Tech named Aki star he's Al he's the lead singer for Spanish fly now
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up with them beat boys breaking the whole nine in Northern California he hit me maybe 3 weeks ago or maybe four weeks
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ago from South America and he's opening up for Stevie B oh sorry and it's sold out Arenas work
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it work it right but that's the power of freestyle music can you explain to people what the
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freestyle culture was like when you were coming up I know you just was doing music but they put that label on In
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freestyle what is freestyle to you freestyle to me was the a mixture of
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hip-hop and Latin Beats from New York okay okay the Bronx that's where it
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started M and um it's the music that it was freestyle because the freestyle
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dancers the B boys used to dance to it in the clubs on the streets with lenium
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floors and the shell top Adidas that's what they used to move to okay so they
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considered it freestyle music that's how I take it that's how I see it and then
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they started calling it Latin hipop because they started playing us real heavy on the radio and clubs M
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that's my take on that's that's your take so did you did you uh have any camaraderie with some of the groups that
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came out like expose or TKA or all of these people that came at that time I
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knew them all yeah knew them all k k went to school with me Tony you were
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there too MH same school Julia Richmond mhm you know
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um I know a lot of them still yeah with them we we we we do uh freestyle shows
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with with TKA expose uh Stevie B with like you know there there is a lane
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there's a movement still there's a whole generation of people that grew up on that on that style of music well
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recently Kendrick we was just talking about this DB um that's DB by the way producer DJ and we were talking about
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how Kendrick and scissors sampled um Debbie Deb when I hear music yeah right
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girl weekends and uh well in all of those do you see a Resurgence oh yeah uh
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uh it's been happening for a minute join the Lucas just sample Can You Feel The be you know what I mean like it's it's
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it's happening listen great music gets recycled we in this business you know
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like if it if it's great it it her Can You Feel The Beat has done been redone by the black IPS Nina now join a LC like
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it's it keeps getting recycled which is great it like it's it just gives us more content yeah okay when we're out on the
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road doing our thing yes I like this Tony Minaj give her a round of applause she Thug me out right there you ain't
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got the ass he's walking up Tony I can't believe you just did that on my show let me say this Lisa yes you got to
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come back I will I promise okay you promise I promise I'm so thankful that you invited us on here you allowed us to
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come on cuz this is a wonderful platform you are all wonderful people and the
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kids out there my kids my two boys an tonar and Adam I love you mommy loves you I know they're listening hey Uncle
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Theo sway loves you too we love you we we love y'all oh
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thank you Lisa Lisa Lisa Tony Minaj make sure y'all watch this Can You Feel The Beat um February the 1st Saturday on
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live time let's bring him in is he right here yeah I believe so I want to introduce you to somebody who who's
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legendary like you and I know you never met him so I'm going to see if we can make this happen we got the iconic
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Martin Lawrence about to walk up in here yo man where you at man my guy where's my
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guy where's my guy we got Martin up in here man yo
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yo come on man hey we got Martin Lawrence is walking F hey Martin this
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Lisa Lisa and she wanted to from Lisa Lisa in the co jam and she wanted to meet you brother That's Tony right there
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yeah come on man iconic right thereo yo so we got we got Martin
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Lawrence coming up next Lisa I love you we family now okay okay absolutely okay
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love you congratulations on the movie February 1st lifetime make sure y'all watching Can You Feel The Beat Lisa Lisa
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Tony love you too my brother Martin Lawrence is here 888 742 3345