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yeah I'm this next segment is for all
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the sneaker collectors shoe collectors
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you know offici that was a a trailer for
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a new documentary Somerset to the world
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Clarks 200 when we talk about Clarks cuz
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it's celebrating 200 years of Clark
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original shoes Heather be when we
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mention Clark's what are we talking
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about shoes wab bees wab bees right and
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my good friend who is a shoe offish a uh
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one of the sought after not only
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podcasters but creatives in the business
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um he's the founder of the compound
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which is a creative Collective and
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gallery where art music fashion and
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sports all intersect he was way ahead of
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the curb when he came up with this idea
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these Concepts I was there I used to go
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to all the early places and hang out
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with them the N1 mixtape was a cultural
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ttin pole a phenomenon um that took
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place in the uh the late 90s into the
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early 2000s he's the creator of that um
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he also produce and co-direct at ESPN's
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30 for30 documentary The Great greatest
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mixtape ever um that was incredible and
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he's here to talk about this documentary
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Nar narrated by yassim B AKA most death
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for those who don't know it's premiered
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in Paris for Fashion Week this past
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January I want to welcome him back to
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the show the legendary set free ladies
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gentlemen set free is in the welcome
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welcome set free what up my brother yo
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that intro is legendary it doesn't even
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do you justice it's you it's you bro we
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were just talking how we met way back in
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1996 wow he was working with Tommy Boy
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Records right yeah I actually got a
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chance to go on the wakeup show it was
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um in California like before he was New
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York's way you know but he that's 30
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ago totally yeah and you were an
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Innovative person back then I never saw
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you in the boxes just the kind of work
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he did you know and the work that you
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introduced like you always thought
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outside of the perimeters for example
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the M1 mixtape yeah totally that had a
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visual component to it right and no one
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had really done anything like that and
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that's when he crossed collateral Lies
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music and basketball and some people
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went off to be major stars were featured
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on that that mixtape right you've always
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thought ahead of the curb how do you
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exercise that how do you discipline
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yourself to to do that after so many
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years um I think well God first always
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you know for me and um with like the
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name of the company is compound so it's
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always about like put every everything
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needs something you know man woman grits
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eggs peanut butter jelly like so for me
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it's like always what things are always
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up under our nose that we don't really
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put together like the music was always
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there with in the basketball it was in
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the Parks the radio was you know the car
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was either the car was playing music
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while they was playing ball or the radio
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but we just never put it on the object
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so you know it's always like you know
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it's some it's some girl out there right
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now doing ballet to hip-hop music but
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yeah we never seen it together it's
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somebody Kanye yeah you know it's
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something it's it's these relationships
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is always there so I'm always like okay
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what are the relationships that's there
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and let me be the one to bring them
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together to the to the masses I like to
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Seth free is here you can also follow
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him at I Amore setfree the way it sounds
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is the way it's spelled
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how do you would you mastered that and I
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and there was another man by the name of
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sincere Thompson you know sincere he be
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early on you know sincere too right
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early on he was able to transition from
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just being in the in the Realms of music
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and and the skills he learned by
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marketing and pro promoting music he
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applied to corporate Brands like Pepsi
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and Nike and all of these different
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things when that happens because you
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relationships how do you protect the
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content how do you protect the story how
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do you protect the culture because
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brands have a way of coming in and want
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and dilute what it is you're trying to
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put off what would you suggest to people
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who are starting to work with bigger
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Brands uh um always stay true to
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yourself my dad always told me make sure
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you could fall asleep at night and be
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proud of yourself and look yourself in
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the mirror and I think you know when you
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you working with these Brands first make
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sure your integrity for yourself is
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there but you know you you got people to
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answer to you know hip hop we got a lot
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of people to answer to to like with the
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great that came before us so I mean I I
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hold myself in that that esteem of like
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making sure that I can look myself in
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the mirror at no matter what the job I
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do and then the people that come from
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that Community you know and if that's
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hip hop if that's basketball if that's
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fashion whatever it is I want to make
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sure like if it's fashion I want to make
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sure the April Walkers or you know the
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car canaz or the Maurice Malon is like
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okay he's official freeze official if
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that's basketball from the rash walles
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to the Iman shumer the alen Ives all my
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guys from all the way up into the jayen
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Browns the Jason tatums or carelo anony
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they like no Free's official so it's
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it's a community of people that you want
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to stand behind you in in the work you
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do amen what about a lot of these Brands
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early on in Hip Hop we didn't have great
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relationships with Brands when Run DMC
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made my Adidas yeah you know or Pastor
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cavasier think Grand po by Tommy
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Hilfiger owes him a check like he's the
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reason why we started wearing the Tom
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Hill figure ruges and it became
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something in the hood like it was
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because of his him so yeah the
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relationships were not there were not
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there but but I feel like Seth free has
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put yourself in a position where you've
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been able to kind of be a Lea on and
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menend some of the relationships with
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Brands and certain artists we're talking
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about Clarks when you think of Clarks
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the artists you think about that war
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Clarks were who Dana D slick slick
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Ray ghost ghost Nas right rayan M how
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much mending of relationships between
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the artists and the brands have you had
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to do and then how did you go about
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doing it I think what Happ because
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artists feel like they were taken
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advantage or weren't paid back for all
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the promotions they done for these
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Brands right y I think one of the things
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I realized man I mean even with me with
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an1 it's you know every brand the person
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that built the house is pretty much no
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longer there like during these years you
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know Clark's a little different cuz they
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have 200 years of The Branding as a
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family but think about it you go buy a
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new house and if you take the person
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that lived in that house if Heather
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lived in that house 50 years ago and
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somebody living there you can't really
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go to the new people in the house and be
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like hea like this mother like it's not
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even going to so it's about trying to at
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least get both new parties to the table
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because it's probably a new CMO there
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and then it's a you know the artist did
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something 15 years ago it's like okay
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look that person that budget ain't there
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no more but are you at least willing to
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understand that these people did have a
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a significant role in building a pillar
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for this community we're not saying that
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the africanamerican our culture did the
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whole company because we didn't but we
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did build a big pillar there and if your
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budget can reflect whatever you can do
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in your budget like let's let's start
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from scratch with that budget and give
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these people they just do and then that
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that's kind of how I go about it Seth
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free is here man free what's interesting
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is now we have the arrival of the irony
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of influencer marketing you know which
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kind of flips it upside down where you
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speak about the pillars of our culture
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who didn't get the credits and the
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dollars right um for putting these
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brands on such major platforms and
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introducing them to a wider reaching
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audience and then you can have like a an
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average girl from Middle America you
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know what I mean who's getting a check
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from whatever brand because she takes 30
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seconds yep and the numbers can you
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speak about how you feel about the
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influencer economy now and its impact on
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how we view capitalism and also
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consumerism yeah uh for me it's you know
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even me on social media I'm not my
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numbers is not crazy like I'm at like
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60,000 followers come on man you got
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60,000 people on the planet that follow
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you that's crazy that's not I I think I
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think who told you that's not crazy them
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Brands yeah totally exactly they have
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but I think for like in the just a
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position it's like The Art of
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Storytelling is still there the art of
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the the authenticity the organic like
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like if the influencer is you know more
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power to them they're they're killing it
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how they're reaching all these numbers
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and these kids and their growth but if
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you still are creative and you really
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study the brand and you want to tell the
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story of the brand the right way and you
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you do your research that brand will
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listen to you you know listen and and
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that's what's happening for me to be
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able to still get these opportunities to
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do documentaries for Brands um and being
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able to to find the right people that
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you know that connected the Clarks which
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was the like the um Eric Hayes been
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wearing it since he's designing for the
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Beasty Boys like um Chris Robertson who
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did the Apollo kids video did the he
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built the uh WABE Factory in Queens and
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like that's bigger than sometime the
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influencer and that's bigger than the
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numbers cuz a lot of people didn't they
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don't understand like wow he really
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built a WABE Factory yeah and queens for
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a video shoot so I think the um if you
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don't have those numbers like just
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really do your research understand be
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authentic and true storytelling is not
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content and true storytelling is not
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going nowhere we got set free here we're
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talking about the new documentary
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sumerset to the world Clark's 200 if
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you're a sneaker head you're Sho lover
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uh celebrating 200 years of Clark
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original shoes Nar narrated by yasim Bay
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how can people see this um film comes
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out tomorrow it's going to be on on
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Clark's YouTube channel okay um the
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Instagram it's like a 20 minute doc um
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it's narrated by Yasin Bay I'm super
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excited stories about how Clark's
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connected all over the world from
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America to Jamaica we got big youth in
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there um big youth yeah big you wow I
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legendary my guy big youth look like
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he's still a youth though man that dude
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running around here like he 24 the right
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name he looks great man
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Ray um Chris Robertson you know we um
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Liam Gallagher from Oasis is in itow um
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so we got a chance to go to a bunch of
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different countries and talk about how
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like Clarks is connected to a lot of
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different countries music the quality of
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the shoe and um I'm just super excited
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about it man I'm proud of you for this
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give this man a round of applause I used
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to have the most Clarks in New York
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really is that who said that who said I
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did man I used to get them from MTV all
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them years I was on on TV I made them
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get me Clarks so I kept getting all kind
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of Clarks and then my ex threw them away
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wow what did you do she just didn't like
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them oh cuz once the souls get was your
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souls redy well you know Clark you got
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getting funny they like they like the
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shoe like a Air Force One of shoes
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because but I I bought you a special
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pair I got a special pair you want to do
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a a drum roll to move your your your
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monitor down to he can't
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death wow droll I can get the best shot
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you get the special fabric on it too
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like man give me drum
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you had hit you with a a different
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fabric too oh wow oh wow you got the
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pony got the pony and we gave him we
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gave him the black soul yeah soul so
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your soul is good soul is good it match
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my hat yo free you hooked that man up
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that's ni happy s day for real yeah man
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thank you those are oh my God nice oh my
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gosh and and I'm single now so nobody
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going they not going to throw them away
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so those are nice perfect really really
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nice they match they match the Hat they
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they they style those are per yeah no
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notes no notes nice that's it yeah these
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are dope yeah those are dope
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thank you man I appr manat no ladies I
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got to get y sizes we got to make sure
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we send some up here thank you
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definitely man those are those are
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profession shut up SW I ain't going to
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say nothing yeah you was about to mess
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up okay I didn't I didn't hold on free
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you got a call right now man thank you
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he he was about to say it ain't they
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day he was what I'm about to say what I
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actually say a two different things you
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didn't even have to say that what was
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you about to say that's two different
12:57
things what was you about to say it Ain
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day it ain't they dayree so beautiful
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James and BK what you like to say man
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James BK to the fullest you already know
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good morning everybody good morning hope
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everybody's well and
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blessed I just wanted to call and say uh
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free and I'm sure you know probably
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doesn't remember me he's met a bunch of
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people before but I have a black car
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company here in the city and I drive
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some of those people that he mentioned
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so I've been to the compound before okay
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I've brought uh Iman there I've brought
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Melo there uh I brought Rashid and he
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he's got a great spirit to where like
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even to just he's cooled down the Earth
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to where like he even came to me I'm
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just telling in the car he's like yo
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come inside so I actually got to visit
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and see the compound before and it's a
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very very very dope concept and I
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appreciate you for showing me that
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experience and just want to to say that
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you're a dope dude and keep doing what
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doing I think in at Super Bowl in
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Arizona it might have been at the
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Fanatics I think so but yeah it was good
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to see you and I you felt like you kind
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of remembered me a bit and was just like
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yo hey what's up gave you know gave the
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hood head no like hey what's up my
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brother it it was good to to see you man
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thank you man thank you for the words
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man definitely God bless you man and um
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keep keep just striving to be who you
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are man all right man hey James thank
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you man you're super citizen brother hey
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uh Jermaine from Oakland he been holding
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on for a minute Jay what you want to say
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man talk to us hey J what's going on uh
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Sway in the Morning uh Heather be Tracy
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um but this is really from my brother
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um on behalf of myself and my twin
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brother Tain out here in the Bay Area
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bro we just wanted to say happy sway day
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um from man bro from seeing you from um
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Cel listen to your morning show the wake
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up show wow going to MTV wow I'm talking
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about bro interviewing from hip-hop
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artist music artist to the the White
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House bringing Fab and and 40 and and
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short to the White House with you and
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just seeing all of this bro and then you
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know even the Callaway Family Man we've
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had the opportunity to um um have
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conversations with um T Callaway and
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then even when you come home wow um you
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know it it's just man it's just all love
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so the twins out here in the bay as we
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driving through this rain on 580 you
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know how that is you know I already know
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what that is man hey J Man bro but but
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man just wanted to show you the love CU
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you deserve it man the bar is proud of
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you bro for all that you do you make it
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where you're able to converse with
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anybody on any level and um we just love
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and respect that bro so much love proud
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to be a citizen bro wow man Jermaine
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that's awesome man give Jermaine inaine
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the Wonder Twins out of Oakland yes sir
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give them both a salute Jay I appreciate
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you calling in for that and saying that
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man and I'mma make sure T Callaway know
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that you called in he probably tuned in
15:47
right now okay thank you for that love
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Jermaine and man y'all both are citizens
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a s in the morning baby yes sir yeah man
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get yes take care y'all you too brother
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get set fre Round of Applause y'all
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thank you my brother hey man thank you
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man make sure y'all check out this
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documentary yep tomorrow it's going to
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be on Clark's YouTube channel YouTube
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channel and on Instagram and all the
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links are kick back from compound
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Instagram to Clark's Instagram and um a
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YouTube channel there you go man
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congratulations continue to good work
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brother definitely shout out to my
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compound team my brother Phil Cho helped
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me make this documentary Clarks for the
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opportunity and um shouts out to es B my
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brother in the corner there you go man I